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this week on "the journal editorial report," as president obama struggles to deal with disorder on the boarder, how we got here. plus, is israel preparing to take on hamas once and for all? and we'll look at what's behind the shooting spike in new york and chicago. are folks more interested in politics or solving the problem?
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if they're interested in solving the problem, then this can be solved. if the preference is for politics, this won't be solved. >> welcome to "the journal editorial report." that was president obama in dallas, attempting to frame the debate over immigration, and pointing the finger on republicans for failing to act. and under fire for his decision not the visit the texas border, he's asking for $3.7 billion from congress. a situation that has turned into a political and humanitarian crisis for the president. here's our panel. mary, you followed the issue for
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years. immigration to the united states. what is behind this influx of children? >> well, you have push and pull factors. so, from central america, lots of crime and violence. and that's well-documented. general kelly wrote a piece for the military times this week, saying the effect of the war on drugs there has created chaos and a breakdown of institutions there. and the pull factor, an asylum opportunity that children have because of a law passed in 2008 during the bush administration, bipartisan. saying that children arriving here, claiming they need asylum, are entitled to a hearing. and that can take up to two years. so, they know if they get here,
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they can stay for some period of time while they await their hearing. >> and children from mexico and canada have to be sent back. this is a law trying to stop human trafficking. >> it was a law trying to give children on the run a chance. and the fact they're central american children is complicating it, they can't be sent back according to american law. under the law, the republicans say they believe in the rule of law, they have a right to a hearing. and because the courts are backed up, it can take up to two years. >> and some of the parents are sending for the children to come, join them here, or their aunts or uncles already here because they're here for economic reasons. >> well, the crime and violence
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are one of the factors. but also, they know if they get here, they can probably stay with families for up to two years. and have better economic opportunities, they're safer, and escape the gangs. >> dorothy, do you think that the president supported this because he thought it would help pass immigration reforms? maybe making the republicans look uncompassionate? >> indeed. and i think there is a certain amount of myth making with the children. the great and terrible violence taking place. violence has been taking place
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in these societies forever and you have to think. these are heart breaking stories, but these children are largely pawns. if you can imagine parents sending these children, you have to question the motives of them sending these people. >> well, this will set back immigration reform for years. kim, how well do you think the president is handling this? >> well, it's led to very awkward politics. this is a guy whose left is already beating him up for too
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many deportations already. and he has to respond that he's going to get tougher on this and deport more children. and border security, that's blown a hole in the argument. these children are being collected there, because under the law, they're entitled to a hearing. and this goes down to a failure of immigration reform. and both sides bear guilt for not fixing the problem. >> do you think the president should have gone to the border, and looked like he was inspecting this on top of the issue? >> yes. but this was an expansion of his "so sue me" attitude towards public relations.
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he took the trouble to shake his hand -- it's awkward, and i think it's a kind of psychological breakdown of a sort, a resistance to the role of a president. saying, i don't have good approvals in the ratings. you better know who i am. when we come back. prime minister benjamin netanya netanyahu of israel. what's his next move? ...all day relief. hmm. [bell ring] "roll sound!"
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remain passive in the face of hundreds of rockets fired on its cities, and israel is no exception. >> benjamin netanyahu announcing that israel is stepping up its air strikes. and the callup of some 40,000 troops. and brett, why is hamas doing this now? they're bearing the brunt, their people are bearing the brunt of the retaliatory response from israel? >> well, mohamed morsi, he was
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overthrown -- >> they're doing this out of weakness? >> well, partially, the question of weakness. but the killing of an arab boy, sparking days of protests. and i think hamas saw an opportunity to take the initiative against israel. >> but hamas is bearing the brunt of the retaliation. what do they really think they can gain from this? >> i'm not sure they're concerned about the civilian casualties. in any war, there are ten times as many casualties because it's
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so packed in there. hamas is not concerned about civilian casualties. but it will get the sympathy of a lot of the world. >> so, this will help the palestinian movement. >> and hamas looks at civilian casualties as a propaganda victory. so, hamas firing rockets indiscriminately into israel. the only reason they're not killing people is they missed. israel is firing rockets precisely. but when you're firing into very
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densely populated areas, you're going to have collateral damage. >> and in 2008, there was an attack to try to stop these rocket attacks. but here we are, back again. in 2012, the same thing. that time, israel didn't go into a ground invasion. what is the goal of the israeli response? are they fated every two years to have to do this all over again? >> well, israel has been reluctant to occupy the strip since 2005, since they withdrew. there is extensive tunnelling from the sinai peninsula into
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gaza. i think israel at some point will have to reoccupy a wide corridor to prevent the smuggling of rockets. >> is it possible to eliminate hamas with that kind of a ground inkurgs? >> hamas is not a major military threat to israel. but it would require a sustained operation in gaza that would have political cost to israel and certainly result in casualties to palestine and israel as well.
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>> we have very little leverage there. the failure of this ill-conceived effort to negotiate peace between israel and palestine collapsed. so, we have very little capital to use. and they don't really take us seriously anymore. >> thank you, gentlemen. still ahead, a bloody spate of gun violence. what's behind it? our panel weighs in, next. add vanishing deductible from nationwide insurance and get $100 off for every year of safe driving. which for you, shouldn't be a problem. just another way we put members first,
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it's shaping up to be a bloody summer in two of
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america's biggest cities. chicago and new york city. new york city, ending the month of june with an uptick in gun violence. up 9.5% this summer. we're back with matt, dorothy and kim. do dorothy, what's behind this? >> well, nobody is afraid to carry a gun because they think that police are afraid to stop and check you out. this is an inhibiting factor now, and police feel this
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factor. i will be sued or threatened with being sued. an entirely human response. and this is a result of the endless campaign against stop and frisk. 26% of all of the crime, violent crime in the city, takes place in the low-income housing developments. >> and where the residents actually support stop and frisk, as opposed to the higher-income places. >> well, people didn't appreciate the police being engaged in some neighborhoods. overall, this uptick in crime has not touched the wealthier parts of new york.
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it's been very concentrated in brooklyn, in the bronx. in mostly minority projects. gangs carrying guns. this is not a part of gun control. >> and new york has some of the most strict gun control laws. >> as does chicago. and the commissioner, credited with the miracle in new york of decreasing gun violence by 80%. and mayor diblasio has brought him back. >> very interesting. kim, let's take chicago. it's had periodic bursts of murder sprees over the last couple of years. what accounts for the last one?
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>> well, it's similar to mark. but crime spiking in very specific neighborhoods in chicago, with a lot of unemployment and poverty. there's been a lot of discussion about cuts to police budgets. and both of the cities are examples where the gun laws are so strict, the only people with guns, they're the bad guys. so, it's not a case of that. >> and how will this play in the upcoming elections? michael bloomberg saying he's going the spend millions against
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politicians that oppose gun control in the upcoming elections. >> he's going to need that much money. even after the shootings in newtown, where the children were killed, the bloomberg group is going to make all the upcoming politicians to reveal their position. but a lot of democrats, hailing from states where gun rights are very popular. and they're the most eager to avoid those votes in congress. >> we'll watch this. we'll take one more break. when we come back, hits and misses of the week. if you wear a denture, touch it with your tongue.
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time for hits and misses of the week. kim? >> a miss. sarah palin and others, calling on america and others to impeach president obama. talk about giving the left everything they could possibly hope for. this is going to energize the democratic base and allow the left the claim that's just a personal issue and get the democrat party off the hook for all their terrible governance. >> mary? yellen, ending the bond p of
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buying, otherwise known as quantitative easing. at least it's a step in the right direction. >> matt? >> every sports fan knows that germany thrashed brazil 7-1. a stunning defeat. but the brazilians, a hit, they started to applaud, because they know about when beautiful soccer is being played. and the germans, discomfited that germany scored so many goals. one said, 4-0 would have been enough. >> who are you picki ining in t final? >> germany.
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>> mary? >> i want germany to win. >> be sure to follow us on twitter. that's it for this week's show. my thanks to my panel. hope to see you right here next week. israel escalates its offensive on hamas. welcome to america's news headquarters. good to see you. >> well, this comes as all 15 members of the united nations security council have come together to